https://catholicvote.org/trump-vows-to- ... 3xJqm9rFRQ"When I am back in the White House, never again will your government be used to target Christians and other religious believers. Upon taking office, I will create a new federal task force on fighting anti-Christian bias to be led by a fully reformed Department of Justice."
Trump Vows to Defend Christians Targeted by DOJ, FBI
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Trump Vows to Defend Christians Targeted by DOJ, FBI
Devotion to the souls in Purgatory contains in itself all the works of mercy, which supernaturalized by a spirit of faith, should merit us Heaven. de Sales
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we heard some news here in Australia that the ? supreme court has removed Trump's ability to run as president?......He has been forbidden due to allegedly not fit to run the country (um but Biden is?)
Any word from your side on that?
on further investigation, its now saying only for certain state(s) he cannot appear on the ballot card
how bizarre? .....
Any word from your side on that?
on further investigation, its now saying only for certain state(s) he cannot appear on the ballot card
how bizarre? .....
"He who followeth Me, walketh not in darkness." sayeth the Lord
Re: Trump Vows to Defend Christians Targeted by DOJ, FBI
Colorado did the deed but it probably won't make a bit of difference. It will just give Trump another boost.
Devotion to the souls in Purgatory contains in itself all the works of mercy, which supernaturalized by a spirit of faith, should merit us Heaven. de Sales
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glad to hear
go Trump!!!
go Trump!!!
"He who followeth Me, walketh not in darkness." sayeth the Lord
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Michigan Supreme Court Rules to Keep Trump on 2024 Ballot
The Michigan Supreme Court handed a victory to the former president.
The Michigan Supreme Court rejected an attempt to remove former President Donald Trump from the 2024 ballot based on a reading of the U.S. Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, according to a court document posted on Wednesday.
The ruling in Michigan starkly contrasts a decision handed down last week by the Colorado Supreme Court that disqualified the former president from serving as president and removed him from the Colorado primary ballot, with a 4–3 majority of judges arguing that he was linked to the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol breach. However, some analysts have suggested that the U.S. Supreme Court would overturn the ruling—as he hasn't been charged with either rebellion or insurrection in any jurisdiction.
According to the Michigan court's brief order, it denied an appeal against the former president because it was "not persuaded that the questions presented should be reviewed by this Court." The order appeared to reject the appeal on procedural grounds and did not address questions about whether President Trump engaged in an "insurrection" or whether the Constitution's 14th Amendment's Section 3 applies.
The order from the Michigan Supreme Court was not signed and no vote count was released. There was only one dissent: Democrat-nominated Justice Elizabeth Welch.
But with the ruling, due to the 2024 election's timeline, it allows President Trump to remain on the ballot in Michigan, a key battleground state. Several recent polls have shown that the former president is leading President Joe Biden, a Democrat, in Michigan.
"The only legal issue properly before the Court is whether the Court of Claims and the Court of Appeals erred by holding that the Michigan Secretary of State lacks legal authority to remove or withhold former President Donald J. Trump’s name from Michigan’s 2024 presidential primary ballot," Judge Welch wrote in the dissent.
"Significantly, Colorado’s election laws differ from Michigan’s laws in a material way that is directly relevant to why the appellants in this case are not entitled to the relief they seek concerning the presidential primary election in Michigan," she wrote, adding that "while not adopted by [a lower court], I would also vacate the Court of Claims’ analysis and application of the political question doctrine as unnecessary dicta considering the court’s conclusions on the merits as to the primary election and ripeness as to the general election ... for these reasons, I respectfully dissent."
Other Lawsuits
A lawsuit against the former president was filed in September by a left-wing advocacy group, Free Speech for the People, along with a group of voters.
It sought to disqualify President Trump under a provision in the U.S. Constitution, written in the immediate aftermath of the Civil War, that blocks people who have engaged in "insurrection or rebellion" from holding office if they have previously sworn an oath to the United States. Colorado's lawsuit was filed by a separate left-leaning organization.
About a month ago, Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, a Democrat who previously criticized President Trump's claims about the 2020 election, announced a list of names for the 2024 presidential primaries in her state. The secretary said that it would be the final list of candidates "barring a court order."
More than a dozen lawsuits have been filed in 2023 seeking to end President Trump's presidential candidacy under interpretations of the 14th Amendment.
Free Speech for the People also filed a similar suit that was rejected by the Minnesota Supreme Court, and it filed a new challenge in Oregon. When the suit was rejected, President Trump hailed the decision.
On his social media platform, Truth Social, he wrote that the "ridiculous 14th Amendment lawsuit just thrown out by Minnesota Supreme Court," adding at the time, "Congratulations to all who fought this HOAX."
Republicans React
A Republican U.S. House lawmaker also proposed a bill to block the votes of any state that removes a presidential candidate from their respective ballots.
"Play stupid games, win stupid prizes," Rep. Clay Higgins (R-La.) wrote on social media last week, introducing the bill. "Have a very MAGA Christmas."
Several Republican state lawmakers in Georgia have also suggested a bill to block President Biden from the ballot.
"The absurdity of radical Democrat judges removing Donald Trump from the ballot in Colorado will be a stain on the American political system for decades. By their very own interpretation of the law, Joe Biden is 100 percent not eligible to run for political office," the news release read. "Democrats' insane justification to remove Trump can just as easily be applied to Joe Biden for his 'insurrection' at the southern border and his alleged corrupt family business dealings with China."
Colorado Ruling
The Colorado high court, in a ruling last week, stated that the justices did "not reach these conclusions lightly,” adding, "We are mindful of the magnitude and weight of the questions now before us."
"We are likewise mindful of our solemn duty to apply the law, without fear or favor, and without being swayed by public reaction to the decisions that the law mandates we reach," their order said.
But one of the dissenting Colorado justices, Judge Carlos Samour, wrote that he believes President Trump's due process rights were violated under the state court's order.
“Our government cannot deprive someone of the right to hold public office without due process of law,” he wrote in his dissent. “Even if we are convinced that a candidate committed horrible acts in the past—dare I say, engaged in insurrection—there must be procedural due process before we can declare that individual disqualified from holding public office.”
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The Michigan Supreme Court handed a victory to the former president.
The Michigan Supreme Court rejected an attempt to remove former President Donald Trump from the 2024 ballot based on a reading of the U.S. Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, according to a court document posted on Wednesday.
The ruling in Michigan starkly contrasts a decision handed down last week by the Colorado Supreme Court that disqualified the former president from serving as president and removed him from the Colorado primary ballot, with a 4–3 majority of judges arguing that he was linked to the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol breach. However, some analysts have suggested that the U.S. Supreme Court would overturn the ruling—as he hasn't been charged with either rebellion or insurrection in any jurisdiction.
According to the Michigan court's brief order, it denied an appeal against the former president because it was "not persuaded that the questions presented should be reviewed by this Court." The order appeared to reject the appeal on procedural grounds and did not address questions about whether President Trump engaged in an "insurrection" or whether the Constitution's 14th Amendment's Section 3 applies.
The order from the Michigan Supreme Court was not signed and no vote count was released. There was only one dissent: Democrat-nominated Justice Elizabeth Welch.
But with the ruling, due to the 2024 election's timeline, it allows President Trump to remain on the ballot in Michigan, a key battleground state. Several recent polls have shown that the former president is leading President Joe Biden, a Democrat, in Michigan.
"The only legal issue properly before the Court is whether the Court of Claims and the Court of Appeals erred by holding that the Michigan Secretary of State lacks legal authority to remove or withhold former President Donald J. Trump’s name from Michigan’s 2024 presidential primary ballot," Judge Welch wrote in the dissent.
"Significantly, Colorado’s election laws differ from Michigan’s laws in a material way that is directly relevant to why the appellants in this case are not entitled to the relief they seek concerning the presidential primary election in Michigan," she wrote, adding that "while not adopted by [a lower court], I would also vacate the Court of Claims’ analysis and application of the political question doctrine as unnecessary dicta considering the court’s conclusions on the merits as to the primary election and ripeness as to the general election ... for these reasons, I respectfully dissent."
Other Lawsuits
A lawsuit against the former president was filed in September by a left-wing advocacy group, Free Speech for the People, along with a group of voters.
It sought to disqualify President Trump under a provision in the U.S. Constitution, written in the immediate aftermath of the Civil War, that blocks people who have engaged in "insurrection or rebellion" from holding office if they have previously sworn an oath to the United States. Colorado's lawsuit was filed by a separate left-leaning organization.
About a month ago, Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, a Democrat who previously criticized President Trump's claims about the 2020 election, announced a list of names for the 2024 presidential primaries in her state. The secretary said that it would be the final list of candidates "barring a court order."
More than a dozen lawsuits have been filed in 2023 seeking to end President Trump's presidential candidacy under interpretations of the 14th Amendment.
Free Speech for the People also filed a similar suit that was rejected by the Minnesota Supreme Court, and it filed a new challenge in Oregon. When the suit was rejected, President Trump hailed the decision.
On his social media platform, Truth Social, he wrote that the "ridiculous 14th Amendment lawsuit just thrown out by Minnesota Supreme Court," adding at the time, "Congratulations to all who fought this HOAX."
Republicans React
A Republican U.S. House lawmaker also proposed a bill to block the votes of any state that removes a presidential candidate from their respective ballots.
"Play stupid games, win stupid prizes," Rep. Clay Higgins (R-La.) wrote on social media last week, introducing the bill. "Have a very MAGA Christmas."
Several Republican state lawmakers in Georgia have also suggested a bill to block President Biden from the ballot.
"The absurdity of radical Democrat judges removing Donald Trump from the ballot in Colorado will be a stain on the American political system for decades. By their very own interpretation of the law, Joe Biden is 100 percent not eligible to run for political office," the news release read. "Democrats' insane justification to remove Trump can just as easily be applied to Joe Biden for his 'insurrection' at the southern border and his alleged corrupt family business dealings with China."
Colorado Ruling
The Colorado high court, in a ruling last week, stated that the justices did "not reach these conclusions lightly,” adding, "We are mindful of the magnitude and weight of the questions now before us."
"We are likewise mindful of our solemn duty to apply the law, without fear or favor, and without being swayed by public reaction to the decisions that the law mandates we reach," their order said.
But one of the dissenting Colorado justices, Judge Carlos Samour, wrote that he believes President Trump's due process rights were violated under the state court's order.
“Our government cannot deprive someone of the right to hold public office without due process of law,” he wrote in his dissent. “Even if we are convinced that a candidate committed horrible acts in the past—dare I say, engaged in insurrection—there must be procedural due process before we can declare that individual disqualified from holding public office.”
Epoch Times
Devotion to the souls in Purgatory contains in itself all the works of mercy, which supernaturalized by a spirit of faith, should merit us Heaven. de Sales
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Trump Stays on Colorado Ballot as State GOP Appeals to Supreme Court
With the Colorado GOP's appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court to keep former president and current GOP frontrunner Donald Trump on the state's primary ballot, President Trump is near certain to stay on the ballot.
The Colorado Secretary of State's office said that "Donald Trump will be included as a candidate on Colorado’s 2024 Presidential Primary Ballot when certification occurs on January 5, 2024, unless the U.S. Supreme Court declines to take the case or otherwise affirms the Colorado Supreme Court ruling."
Secretary Jena Griswold added in a comment that she is in support of the Colorado Supreme Court ruling to disqualify President Trump.
"Donald Trump engaged in insurrection and was disqualified under the Constitution from the Colorado Ballot. The Colorado Supreme Court got it right,” Ms. Grisworld stated.
"This decision is now being appealed. I urge the U.S. Supreme Court to act quickly given the upcoming presidential primary election.”
On Dec. 19, the Colorado Supreme Court ruled President Trump ineligible as a candidate under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, which stipulates that people who have taken an oath of office and then participated in an "insurrection" or "rebellions" cannot return to office without a two-thirds vote from Congress to remove the disability.
Activists have argued that Jan. 6, 2021, constituted an insurrection, and legal scholars and experts in recent months have debated over the application of the Civil War-era statute as it pertains to President Trump's eligibility for office.
Lawsuits challenging his eligibility have been filed in about half the states across the nation, but both federal and state judges have largely dismissed the cases on procedural and jurisdictional grounds. Reasons have included the interpretation that primaries and political party functions and not governed by the state secretary's office, to rejecting the idea that the framers of the 14th Amendment meant for each state to determine their own definition of "insurrection."
Will the Supreme Court Act?
The Colorado Supreme Court ruling included several specific conditions. It had stayed its own order to remove President Trump from the ballot until Jan. 4, just one day before the deadline to certify the primary ballots. That stay would be lifted if no party sought an appeal in the U.S. Supreme Court. Once an appeal is filed, the secretary is ordered to follow any U.S. Supreme Court decision instead.
If the U.S. Supreme Court decides to reject the case by Jan. 4, Colorado will remove President Trump from the primary ballot.
But barring that, or an explicit order from the U.S. Supreme Court to remove him from the ballot before Jan. 4, he will stay on the ballot.
Legal scholars and state secretaries have for months been expecting the U.S. Supreme Court to ultimately provide an answer for this novel legal theory challenging President Trump's eligibility. Even before considering whether Jan. 6 constituted an "insurrection," state judges and amici experts had expressed skepticism that Section 3 is meant for individual states or courts to decide.
The Colorado GOP presented three questions to the U.S. Supreme Court. They are: whether Section 3 applies to presidents, whether Section 3 is self-executing and allows individual states to decide to remove candidates without input from Congress, and whether denying a political party the right to primary their candidates of choice violates the First Amendment.
Spokespersons for President Trump had also announced their intention to file a petition for immediate review before the U.S. Supreme Court but had not indicated what sort of legal question they would present.
The high court may yet decide to reject the case; it could do so after Jan. 4, and President Trump would still appear on the Colorado primary ballot. The Supreme Court already declined to hear one such 14th Amendment appeal in October, though the situation has changed with Colorado explicitly finding President Trump ineligible.
Though President Trump would stay on the primary ballot without action from the U.S. Supreme Court, another wave of disqualification challenges may emerge before the general elections.
Having already determined President Trump ineligible, Colorado may be poised to remove President Trump from the general election ballot.
The Minnesota Supreme Court had also earlier dismissed an eligibility challenge without prejudice, explaining that primaries are a party matter, but the challenge could be brought regarding the general election.
Colorado remains the only state to have heard arguments regarding "insurrection" in court, holding a week-long trial in which plaintiffs presented a case largely based on the controversial January 6 Select Committee report. Attorneys for President Trump argued the report should not have been allowed as evidence, pointing to the bias of committee members, but judges faulted the attorneys for not attempting to refute individual facts and arguments pulled from the report.
In Maine, Secretary of State Shanna Bellows held a public hearing after three challenges to President Trump's eligibility were submitted to her office, and the issue of insurrection was argued as well. She is set to issue a decision herself, but attorneys for President Trump have requested she recuse herself from the decision-making process after discovering she has made several public statements describing Jan. 6 as an "insurrection" and in favor of impeaching President Trump.
With the Colorado GOP's appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court to keep former president and current GOP frontrunner Donald Trump on the state's primary ballot, President Trump is near certain to stay on the ballot.
The Colorado Secretary of State's office said that "Donald Trump will be included as a candidate on Colorado’s 2024 Presidential Primary Ballot when certification occurs on January 5, 2024, unless the U.S. Supreme Court declines to take the case or otherwise affirms the Colorado Supreme Court ruling."
Secretary Jena Griswold added in a comment that she is in support of the Colorado Supreme Court ruling to disqualify President Trump.
"Donald Trump engaged in insurrection and was disqualified under the Constitution from the Colorado Ballot. The Colorado Supreme Court got it right,” Ms. Grisworld stated.
"This decision is now being appealed. I urge the U.S. Supreme Court to act quickly given the upcoming presidential primary election.”
On Dec. 19, the Colorado Supreme Court ruled President Trump ineligible as a candidate under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, which stipulates that people who have taken an oath of office and then participated in an "insurrection" or "rebellions" cannot return to office without a two-thirds vote from Congress to remove the disability.
Activists have argued that Jan. 6, 2021, constituted an insurrection, and legal scholars and experts in recent months have debated over the application of the Civil War-era statute as it pertains to President Trump's eligibility for office.
Lawsuits challenging his eligibility have been filed in about half the states across the nation, but both federal and state judges have largely dismissed the cases on procedural and jurisdictional grounds. Reasons have included the interpretation that primaries and political party functions and not governed by the state secretary's office, to rejecting the idea that the framers of the 14th Amendment meant for each state to determine their own definition of "insurrection."
Will the Supreme Court Act?
The Colorado Supreme Court ruling included several specific conditions. It had stayed its own order to remove President Trump from the ballot until Jan. 4, just one day before the deadline to certify the primary ballots. That stay would be lifted if no party sought an appeal in the U.S. Supreme Court. Once an appeal is filed, the secretary is ordered to follow any U.S. Supreme Court decision instead.
If the U.S. Supreme Court decides to reject the case by Jan. 4, Colorado will remove President Trump from the primary ballot.
But barring that, or an explicit order from the U.S. Supreme Court to remove him from the ballot before Jan. 4, he will stay on the ballot.
Legal scholars and state secretaries have for months been expecting the U.S. Supreme Court to ultimately provide an answer for this novel legal theory challenging President Trump's eligibility. Even before considering whether Jan. 6 constituted an "insurrection," state judges and amici experts had expressed skepticism that Section 3 is meant for individual states or courts to decide.
The Colorado GOP presented three questions to the U.S. Supreme Court. They are: whether Section 3 applies to presidents, whether Section 3 is self-executing and allows individual states to decide to remove candidates without input from Congress, and whether denying a political party the right to primary their candidates of choice violates the First Amendment.
Spokespersons for President Trump had also announced their intention to file a petition for immediate review before the U.S. Supreme Court but had not indicated what sort of legal question they would present.
The high court may yet decide to reject the case; it could do so after Jan. 4, and President Trump would still appear on the Colorado primary ballot. The Supreme Court already declined to hear one such 14th Amendment appeal in October, though the situation has changed with Colorado explicitly finding President Trump ineligible.
Though President Trump would stay on the primary ballot without action from the U.S. Supreme Court, another wave of disqualification challenges may emerge before the general elections.
Having already determined President Trump ineligible, Colorado may be poised to remove President Trump from the general election ballot.
The Minnesota Supreme Court had also earlier dismissed an eligibility challenge without prejudice, explaining that primaries are a party matter, but the challenge could be brought regarding the general election.
Colorado remains the only state to have heard arguments regarding "insurrection" in court, holding a week-long trial in which plaintiffs presented a case largely based on the controversial January 6 Select Committee report. Attorneys for President Trump argued the report should not have been allowed as evidence, pointing to the bias of committee members, but judges faulted the attorneys for not attempting to refute individual facts and arguments pulled from the report.
In Maine, Secretary of State Shanna Bellows held a public hearing after three challenges to President Trump's eligibility were submitted to her office, and the issue of insurrection was argued as well. She is set to issue a decision herself, but attorneys for President Trump have requested she recuse herself from the decision-making process after discovering she has made several public statements describing Jan. 6 as an "insurrection" and in favor of impeaching President Trump.
Devotion to the souls in Purgatory contains in itself all the works of mercy, which supernaturalized by a spirit of faith, should merit us Heaven. de Sales
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what? they havent been bribed or threatened
anything they can do to stop trump running (bcz he will win by a landslide, unless they tamper again with votes)
corruption plus - what a year - most significant was the sudden passing away or stepping down or tampering of election results - of major world leaders
those that didnt comply are facing wars within and without: Netanyahu and Putin and Trump
anything they can do to stop trump running (bcz he will win by a landslide, unless they tamper again with votes)
corruption plus - what a year - most significant was the sudden passing away or stepping down or tampering of election results - of major world leaders
those that didnt comply are facing wars within and without: Netanyahu and Putin and Trump
"He who followeth Me, walketh not in darkness." sayeth the Lord