This is sick, twisted and evil/priests and a bishop

[Denise]

I got this from the Lepanto Institute this morning. I pray that Pope Leo knows about this and does something about it.

As you know, I am currently in San Antonio, TX to continue our ongoing investigation into the heretical Association of US Catholic Priests (AUSCP). I wrote you a couple of days ago about this, and I just wanted to give you a quick update.


This picture right here tells SOME of the story of what is going on at the AUSCP’s conference on “Sexuality.” But despite the distribution of rainbow buttons saying “love is love,” and pamphlets advertising “Queer Theology,” what I am hearing about and seeing with my own eyes at this conference is beyond shocking! Here are some of my observations.

Remember the gay priest from Syracuse who said a “gay Mass” with a rainbow flag projected over the altar? The one who opened the Mass with the Hindu greeting, “Namaste”? His name is Fr. Frederick Daley, and he is here. We reported on him being a member of the AUSCP a couple of days ago and I happened to ride the elevator with him yesterday morning. Speaking of elevator rides, I also happened to share an elevator with Abp. John Wester of Santa Fe. Abp. Wester is the AUSCP’s “Episcopal Moderator,” making him – in effect – the AUSCP’s liaison to the USCCB. When I got on the elevator, he was having an animated conversation with a young AUSCP conference attendee (perhaps a priest?), but as soon as I walked onboard, his demeanor changed. He was so eager to get out of the elevator we shared that he nearly got off on the wrong floor.

Bp. John Stowe of Lexington, KY is also here.

What I’m about to tell you is horrifying, and I won’t blame you if you don’t want to hear it. On the first day of the conference, Fr. Ron Rolheiser gave a retreat focused on sexuality. During a Q&A session, several priests raised their hands, admitting that they are homosexuals – and then they started talking about some graphic acts that I will only refer to as “self-pleasure!” These priests openly admitted to engaging in this vice, justified their actions as if there was no moral problem with it, and even claimed that doing this after prayer was a “beautiful expression.”

Hearing this made me absolutely SICK!

I know you don’t like hearing this kind of thing, and believe me – I don’t like seeing or hearing it, either. But we do this kind of work in service to you and Holy Mother Church in the hopes of defending the innocent from vicious wolves such as these!

I have amassed a ton of information, and we will be reporting on our findings very soon.

[MarieT]

the so called "gay" mass naturally isnt valid

this is where the latae sententiae takes place

by heresy the priest has automatically excommunicated himself,

Canon 1364 §1 of the 1983 Code of Canon Law. It states that:
“An apostate from the faith, a heretic or a schismatic incurs a latae sententiae excommunication…”

This means that a priest who publicly and obstinately preaches heresy—that is, denies or doubts a truth that must be believed with divine and Catholic faith—automatically incurs excommunication without the need for a formal declaration, provided the conditions for imputability are met (like full knowledge and deliberate consent).
This penalty is meant to protect the integrity of the faith and to prompt the offender toward repentance. If the heresy is public and scandalous, the bishop may also issue a formal declaration to make the excommunication known.

Canon 1364 §1 applies to *any* baptized Catholic who obstinately denies or doubts a truth that must be believed with divine and Catholic faith—including clergy.

[MarieT]

In an earlier post, the question of francis' situation by preaching heresy arose.
The bishops, theologians, cardinals met to discuss if the Pope (the highest See)
falls under the category. They decided that given his ill health, and possilbe
not long papacy, it would be better not to cause scandal for the church (hypothetical opinion).

I would argue that

Canon 1364 §1 applies to *any* baptized Catholic who obstinately denies or doubts a truth that must be believed with divine and Catholic faith—including clergy.

would mean by preaching heresy, even a pope (a baptized Catholic) would fall under that category.

The canon does not state "except for the Pope".....it clearly states "any baptized Catholic"

So Cardinal Burke, Sarah, etc were right to question it.
The inaction by the hierarchy however......the rest is history
God steps in ....Jubilee year....the blessings of a good natured and humble new pope (a professor and Canon Lawyer)
says it all